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errnee
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where did you get the oil and water feed from? can I have a link.
Also have a look at filterdot.co.uk if youve a magnetic sump plug this will be a great addition.

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barreljan wrote:
Yes indeed, it will be something like this (quick piccie from the net)

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Thats the way to go, one that will not break and a nice looking part to.

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errnee wrote:
where did you get the oil and water feed from? can I have a link.
Also have a look at filterdot.co.uk if youve a magnetic sump plug this will be a great addition.


this one got off ebay and is exactly the one i've ordered:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170649981555

it has no water lines because the turbo is only oil cooled/lubricated

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And again....
No diagnose yet, but seems no sparking or no compression


Motivation is sinking rapidly :cry:

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Andy S
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Sorry to hear your having all these problems mate :(

Have you not got another engine you can swap in?


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HughieW
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I don't need to list these for you guys, as you've probably checked already but just incase:

Ignition coil/distributor working? If it is working, is it strong enough? Check with a multimeter to be doubly sure
Bad earth from engine to chassis?
Not enough battery power to produce big enough spark? Jump from a running car, see if that helps (~14v would produce larger spark than ~12v)
Timing belt ok? Not slipped any teeth?
Valve clearances?
Camshaft snapped again?
Total headgasket failure?

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Hellracer
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:18 pm 
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It happend on the road while cruising.

yesterday we checked a few things;
compression on all 4 cilinders
all 4 leads and sparkplugs work, all 4 spark
fuel is no problem
timing is still correct, belt is fine
camshafts in 1 piece
valvesprings intact
ECU shows all the correct settings

Only the middle 2 cilinders are firing... Maybe the spark is to weak, but why did that happen on the middle of the road during cruising?

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HughieW
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Hmm i would guess that maybe sparks 1 and 4 are too weak :dontknow: this was why my skoda didn't start, all 4 were sparking outside the cylinder, but not firing inside it. New ignition coil fixed that.

I'd try a new distributor (or at least a new cap).

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nooo not again! it can only be something simple! such as distributer or coil!

you'll get her fixed in a jiffy!
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Hellracer
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HughieW wrote:
Hmm i would guess that maybe sparks 1 and 4 are too weak :dontknow: this was why my skoda didn't start, all 4 were sparking outside the cylinder, but not firing inside it. New ignition coil fixed that.

I'd try a new distributor (or at least a new cap).

it has no distributor, it a EDIS4 system from Frod ;)

'New' second hand unit will be around 40-50 pounds, but the motivation of spending more money is gone. It keeps breaking down and why shouldn't I get back to N/A ?

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HughieW
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herp derp derp :lol: shows how much i remember :lol:

That's how much my ignition coil for the shitty Skoda cost :lol: no chance of trying it, if it doesn't work you could return it? You can't give up on my favourite BG :p

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Marc S
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yeah, go back to N/A...then send me all your turbo parts :lol:

hope you can get it sorted mate, I love this car...

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I too hope you can get it sorted. . . . . I love this car too :)

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little update :

The story continues, i removed the GTXR engine from the BG, and i'm now rebuilding a N/A GT engine. It will have some of the GTXR engine like the megasquirt systeem, Edis ignition, injectors,fuelrail, turbo intake manifold, fidanza flywheel, stage 3 cintherbronze clutch, gearbox (willbe fitted with a phantomgrip diff)

and i will add a 4-2-1 Ford RS2000 header and make the exhaust a bit shorter to make a diffusor

pictures will follow, my goal is japfest second try :P

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andym323
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Nothing wrong with N/A chap, wish I could afford to fit my BG GT engine :?

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Do you want to fit a turbo on the GT when it runs smooth? I know..you've tried before..but a normal GT hasn't got that much power for the circuit ;)


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it won't be a normal gt engine, its just now for the time beeing, the GTXR engine will be rebuild later on. but i need to drive my bg as it is now... i think it will have 160 mayby 170bhp and that on 900kg... better to handle than 320bhp :P

Update :

'new' GT in on the engine stand, (is it called this way?) ready to get some new gaskets, seals and new parts :) still dont have any photos (BARRELJAN had made some)

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Out with the busted engine

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Here some low-qual piccies of the most greasiest 1.8 GT engine. Ready to be cleaned

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so i am guessing you never found the problem?

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barreljan
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eogbaker wrote:
so i am guessing you never found the problem?

Not yet, probably the head itself or the gasket of maybe some internal problem we guess :roll:

When the car is running again the GTX engine wil be taken a part to check all the internal components and rebuild.

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thnx for the pictures :) 8) next saturday i will continue rebuilding refurbishing this engine ;)

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well i am really glad you guys are not giving up with this car :D :D

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We have plenty of engines standing in the workshop, so no we are not giving up this car 8) The only thing for now we give up is turbo'ing.

Quick list: 1 gt (as seen above), 1 gtx dead (as mentioned earlier), 1 gtx spare, 1 2.0 kf, 1 gt (headgasket failure), 2 gt's in parts, 1 2.5 kldze :lol:

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Good to hear that she's still up living on mate. And Barreljan, I know where to come if my engine dies to get a new one ;) :lol:


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A total rebuild will be expensive! But I hope that you'll get the GTR in de F, running without problems :D

What have you done with this GT to get the 160 - 170 BHP? :D


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The outside of the engine is completely degreased

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And later on, several old gaskets removed and some oilseals around the crankshaft and camshafts. Waterpump is removed and so on..

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Sorry to hear about you guys giving up on the forced induction... :(

But still, awesome NA engine there!

Maybe ITBs??


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@Chris, giving up.... for now ;) in the future it will be back

Nope, no ITB's. Keeping it simple is the magic word. Not trying to mess around too much and ending up with a similar problem which is a dead engine. Most interesting part of this will be the stand-alone ECU (megasquirt) and see how far we come without any internal mods or for example regrinds of cams.

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isnt edis wasted spark? implying that 2 cylinders will always fire at the same time (the ford firing order)??
arnt 1 and 4, and 2 and 3 paired? just a thought..?


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Hellracer
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@lewp91; you are correct, it is a wasted spark system. We do keep in mind that the ignition or coilpack is damaged some how. We'll see.


Updates for now:

Arrived friday's, the new Mazda OEM rockercover gasket

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'New' oil pan since the old one was busted (see here)

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And degreased it

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Inside all spankin' fresh

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New oil sump including a fresh new gasket. The one on the right is the old one including a piece of the old oilpan

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Next, sanded down the block , cleaned it and put on the heat-resistant paint to tidy it up. The oilpan is already in place and do not mind the ugly rockercover :oops: There will be an original black one on it tomorrow.

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The dizzy plug. Perfect machined stop to block of the original hole for the distributor

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New cam seals

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Hopefully some more updates tomorrow.

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