Shaggys BP-BPT conversion thread

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:48 pm

Well its been a while but today i came home to find a letter on my floor....it says " Hello Ben we have ur clip"

:D well it doesn’t say that but the BPT is here!!

It will be in the docks on monday, flying in on a boat called "The Shanghai Express"!! funny

But i got harsh transport problems, my old man was going to come down with a van and pick it up, but hes on his hols, not back until the 15th of Aug. So I got to get my car and the clip (200kg 1.15 cube) up to M boro. :S:S Or look in the south for a place that can do the change. mission.

Im thinking of a van or trailer, but if anyone knows of any good garages in Southampton area let me know.

Ben :S:S

**Joined:** Tue May 03, 2005 11:20 am **Posts:** 492

congrats mate!!!

ooohh, i know exactly that feeling you have right now!!!

hehee, im getting all exited here, i cant wait for the result! :cheers:

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:49 pm

[img]http://70.85.81.229/2918/167/emo/Belly.gif[/img]
Nice one matey - finally your plans take off - then your car will

Mark

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:20 pm

Nice one matey, well jealous now

:D:D

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:30 pm

Dam this is going to be a mission, but hopefully a fun one! :cheers:

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:38 pm

Got ur gearbox yet chap?????

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:15 pm

no but i have priced them and they do good shipping, next day etc.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:14 pm

bpt? whats that :error:

**Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:58 pm

That would be 1.8 turbo engine from the old Mazda 323's

**Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:11 pm

Its a Turbo version of the 1.8 (BP) engine some of us run. They come from the 323 BG GTX and GTR. This one is a GTX (185bhp) from Japan (JDM) Japanese Domestic Market. The advantages are that it has really low miles for a engine of this year (90's) this is due to the harsh MOT's that the cars in Japan have to pass every other year.

You can buy a "Clip" from a company and get it shipped from Japan or America to the UK. A clip is half the front end of a car, so includes all parts to make the engine run. I had my clip removed from the body of the car and placed in a small box. ( 1.15³) and weighs 200Kgs. It includes intercooler, plumbing, looms, ECU etc etc.

A disadvantage to the JDM engines is that they run on 100 RON. which means either getting a piggy back system for the ECU or running the engine on Optimax with power booster ever time I fill the car up. !! A problem Dragon Rob had with his import Type R.

My Clip

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/shaggybenji/clip1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/shaggybenji/clip.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/shaggybenji/turbobenji.jpg[/img]

BPT

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/shaggybenji/332362_9_full.jpg[/img]

Some info here:

http://www.club323f.com/club323f/forum/ ... php?t=2056

http://www.club323f.com/club323f/forum/ ... php?t=2727

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13

http://www.astinagt.com/gallery/display ... 7&pos=-403

Ben

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:57 am

Hey Ben, write us a guide of the conversation will ya?
A lot of pics and some info on the wiring part would be great =)

I have bought a JDM GTR frontcut, and want to do the conversion myself this winter. But I haven't found any good info about the wiring part yet

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:40 am

I plan to write a guide with pics when im finished, so no probs.

Here is some info about the loom though its going to be the hardest part I recon

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4532

BEn

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:02 pm

r that sounds ace, and also expensive

be nice to see a guide n how it all comes togeather

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:13 pm

[quote="DanG"]r that sounds ace, and also expensive [/quote]

yes, it should be fun when the credit card bill falls on the mat. DOH!

Ben

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:22 pm

lol, might crack the floor below then :roll:

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:16 pm

Nice one Ben

oh, and as far i know and after speaking to a few GTR owners they run normal unleaded and have no problems. Thats what ive been told anyway, but if you have the money to afford optimax go for it

Joe

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:22 pm

ah cool, the nearest optimax place is 20 miles away! I will see how I get on.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:35 pm

An ECU upgrade will get round the problem.

Mark

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:21 pm

WOOT

about time you got it

wont be long now till you are boostin

**Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:42 pm

definitely man sounds great ben! i hope u know how u gona get the half cut moving cos i fink thats a big issue man! haha

neways letting you taking the plunge b4 i do the works for my GTX haha keep posting! :cheers:

**Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:31 am

[quote="Joe Mazda"]Nice one Ben

oh, and as far i know and after speaking to a few GTR owners they run normal unleaded and have no problems. Thats what ive been told anyway, but if you have the money to afford optimax go for it

Joe[/quote]

I wouldn't touch the stuff in a jap engine! Mine will run on normal unleaded but you can really notice the difference and god knows what long term problems could happen! But the BPT engine will be different so I guess it might be alright?!?

Nice to here it's made it Ben. :thumbright:

**Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:09 pm

How much BHP are you expecting to run with the GTR engine and would it be worth considering a front LSD?

Also; what's the cost to date? (trying to figure out if it would be worth getting a 220BHP Vtec engine instead! ...tho those engines are hella expensive!)

**Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:53 pm

I dont have the GTR?? GTX u mean? no idea really on final power output. Id like 250 in a year or so. gotta sort customs out and get the thing first tho! LOL

cost to date is £930. just for engine and shipping. just found out its going to cost bout £300-400 to get through customs and f*** TAX!

then fitting, tuning, getting it up north. insurance, i recon it will be between £2-2500 roughly. DOH!

**Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:51 pm

dude, why the huge insurance premium, i checked with Adrian Flux, they wanted an extra £100 for the GTX upgrade, based on the 185hp figure, in fact, they wanted more money to fit nitrous to my 1.5!!!!!!

**Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:02 pm

[quote="andym323"]dude, why the huge insurance premium, i checked with Adrian Flux, they wanted an extra £100 for the GTX upgrade, based on the 185hp figure, in fact, they wanted more money to fit nitrous to my 1.5!!!!!![/quote]

I agree, the 2-2500 includes the insurance.

Whats in my head so far.

930 for clip and post
300 for tax and customs
300 G series gear box and shafts and post
4-500 for fitting
100 intercooler
100 pipework for intercooler
100-200 tuning
100-200 insurance

plus getting it up north but thats non engine related cost 200

but I will have parts to sell:

Air Con
BA radiator
4WD JDM gear box and drive shafts
323f BA F series Box and drive shafts
323f 1.8 engine - possibly strip for parts and sell
standard GTX intercooler
plumbing for standard turbo
lights from GTX
possibly the front strut brace if it doesnt fit my BA

So hopefully I can get some £££ back!!! EAAAAK!!!

**Posted:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:50 pm

Man, you got deeper pockets than me! :cyclopsani:

**Posted:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:04 pm

Nope.... Just a better credit rating!

**Posted:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:09 pm

Tee hee

**Posted:** Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:05 pm

Best tuning for Turbo's apparently is as mentioned piggy backing the ECU, as it stops the car running lean.

My God that is going to be some fine motor..... Good luck.

**Posted:** Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:29 pm

i don`t think the standard GTX has an intercooler shaggs......

please abuse and insult me if i`m wrong....... :roll:

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