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But putting a super charger instead of a turbo on my BP engine, would need G series box though but the FBA BP engine.


Can it be done?

Has it been done?


Ive allready discussed this with some people and some of the replies were
"you'd need a mini cooper charger" and that is had been done somewhere.

But also that super charging would be easier then tubbying and would give
better powerband then with a turbo and laaag. Also that it would be more vunerable to the more violent down shifts...


There is allot of knowledge on modding these cars engine wise on this forum so I though Id ask you lot! :lol: ty!

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i think the only way you would fit a supercharger under the bonnet would be if you placed it above the gearbox and extemded the input shaft so that it could be run off the a/c pulley/belt


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First of all, the Mini SC is WAY too big to go under the bonnet of an F, I know, I tried, it wouldn't go in a 1.5, so there is no WAY it'll go on a 1.8 :? And its never been done before either.

The best solutions from my research are either, retro fitting an MR2 MK1 supercharger where the aircon pully would normally go, or fitting a Rotrex SC. The first option might cost about £1000, the second you're looking at the sharp end of £3500!!!

To be honest, if you want easy quick power and i say that advisidley, then transplant a 323 (BG) GTX/GTR turbo engine!

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Turbo it is then fella :)

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guys gotta admit doe whoever does it first wud be the only supercharger BA in the uk. i like the title of that ;)


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or prob the world??

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Andy, can you remember what the rough X,Y,Z dimensions of the Easton SC are?


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Hi im digging this up again, because Ive now found
somebody with an Eaton45 and a 323F with the BP

Im getting VERY interested, and looking at the SC
the tubes wouldnt be in the way. And also if its got to go onto
the AC and its way down in the bay... Need to mod the front perhaps though.

Orr and Im learning allot not sure though, but the power steering
could be switched with where the AC is supposed to go, then youve
got the space above the heatshield.

Trying to get the guy to check the placement of the SC...


There are some people that give it a good chance. And it will
perhaps be expensive. But not as expensive, FOR ME to get an
GTX engine and do all the work. I understand there is still work
involved, but also allot less piping to be done.


Im setting up this years financial planning and getting a bit excited because the plan is coming together nicely and Ill have some spare
cash in the summer.

Still not certain what Im doing but 1500 euros is there 1 way or the other, and perhaps an extra 1000 also.

And this is for the engine alone! :cheers: :bounce:

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i would like to come over and bolt it on :D

i think (if there is room under the hood) that it is more easy to make then bolt on a turbo charger..
with the SC you only need to make the intake pipes and you need to fit the SC somewhere..

and also remember that you need to run on a stand alone ecu (megesquirt or something..)


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Problem is that Im going to need a location near to my house because
obviously I cannot be driving the car...


2nd fan isnt needed without the airco right? Im certain there must be enough
space, looking at the thing its not that big, and the pipes come out at
the right end.

well its worth a try... ecu is going to be a problem I think...

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if you got a stock ecu lay out i'll bet it can be done :D

then you can replace the stock ecu for some stand alone one.
i think this is what you need..?

wideband lamda
other MAP sensor (BP turbo..??)
bigger injectors
stand alone ecu (or maybe a free programmable bp turob ecu??)

and ofcourse the SC with it pipes and intercooler :D

then get rid of the A/C, remove the 2nd fan etc. and i think there will be room for it :D


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its a shame you cant develop a speciasl that could run it off a modified fly wheel, you would be able to make room for that easy if you could mount it in the gearbox area. beefed up ring gear, take off the started stick it in there, just make sure you got a passenger to help bump start it everywhere!!!!!!!! :blackeye:


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