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 Post subject: Rust and Jacking Points
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:22 pm 
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Hi guys, I'm looking to treat the underneath of my 323 and there's two questions I could do with some expertise with!

I was under there today with wire wool cleaning up any rust patches and road dirt/mud I could see, and there was quite a lot of gunk all over the spare wheel well. Now after going at this for a couple of minutes I thought to myself.... is this road gunk or is this actually some kind of sealant?! It feels kind of gummy? Am I making a mistake in sanding this back to bare metal or is this just what 10 years of road gunk looks like! Did they come from the factory with any sealant/treatment at all?

My second question is where is safe to put a trolley jack to get the car up on jack stands? At the back of the car I couldn't see anywhere obvious other than the centre of the crossmember, but I've heard that might not be a good idea?!

Any help is greatly appreciated!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:19 pm 
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Are you meaning only underneath the car, or inside?

The BA came with a grey, slightly spongy anti-corrosion layer sprayed across the bottom of the car, might be same on the BJ? (BJ owners please step in here! ;) )

Or, just a thought, did a previous owner put waxoil or something similar in the areas you've found the gunky stuff?

While I can't speak for the BJ, the BA has a white sealant along a number of seams inside the boot and elsewhere; it looks a bit like the white waterproof grouting you use to seal around the edges of baths or sinks. It can feel a bit sticky. To be honest it is a pain, as it masks the start of rust coming up along the seams underneath, although I don't remove it unless I need to. So if the BJ has that stuff along interior seams, and it's still flat, that's fine; if you feel lumps in or under it, there's probably something underneath you need to deal with :)

I'll leave jacking points to a BJ owner, although I can't imagine that the side ones are that different to a BA (outer rails on either side, fore and aft, marked by two lumps in the metal, a couple of inches apart; jacking point is those couple of inches in between).

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:38 pm 
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The centre of the crossmember would be fine for jacking.. just look where the jack will fit/sit tight and will not slip from the car.. after all the weight of the body is held on the "shoulders" of the crossmember soo it's pretty strong spot. ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:49 pm 
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slightly spongy sounds about right, it seems to be around the spare wheel pan and also in the wheel arches, if that's the case I may just focus on problem areas rather than doing the entire bottom of the car!
I don't think they have waxoyled it, if anything it looks like its the one area of the car thats been neglected.

I found the jacking points along the sills but as there is a ridge along it (that fits nicely into the mazda jack but not into the cup of my trolley jack and axle stands) I could make a groove in a piece of wood them it I suppose? Also I'm don't think I've got enough space on the jack points at the back to get the stands in once it's jacked up :help:


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