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MrKikker
 Post subject: Couple questions
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:42 pm 
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Looking for info on in which rpm-range the powerband of the 1.8 bp is,

also: how much difference would a stainless exhaust manifold and removing the cat make?


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I believe it's above 3000 rpm. (I know that when I can feel it in my 1.8)

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 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
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yeah someone on the dutch forums actually said 115bhp @ 6000rpm? :lol:


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It doesn't have a powerband...it's not a 2 stroke :lol:

Max power probably is at 6000rpm, but torque will prob be lower ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
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[quote="marcrs"]It doesn't have a powerband...it's not a 2 stroke :lol:

Max power probably is at 6000rpm, but torque will prob be lower ;)[/quote]
*sigh* you're right...

obviously I meant max power and max torque at which rpm :)


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 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Mine seems the most powerful and torque-y between 3750 and 5500 rpm :dontknow:

It was between 4500 and 7000 when I had a shorter intake pipe with no CAF, so I think I'll be modifying my induction kit again to give a larger range of power. I'm thinking of a shorter pipe, having the filter in the engine bay where it was before, then a direct cold air feed from the bumper, and some sort of enclosure to keep some hot air out.

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the shorter the intake piping, the more 'torque-yer' the engine gets.. atleast, that's as far as I know.

looking for prices on an exhaust manifold, seems like every sh*itcar has a premade manifold (saxo 1.4??) but one for a FBA isnt anywhere to be found :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
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I thought it was the other way around...shorter piping equals less torque but more power? :dontknow: I'm sure I've read that, possibly in an ITB thread...and that would support my findings :lol:

Yup exhaust manifolds not available in the UK :( You can get them in Australia, but shipping would be expensive!

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MrKikker
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oh wait. no what i ment is that the longer the intake tubing, the less pulling power you get, and the more topspeed.

and then the other way around.


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ph3n1x
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my tuned bp has max torq on 4200 ish and max power on 6200ish rpm.
These are with a slightly modified head and stock cams on stock timing.
Got dynosheets to prove it.
As oem cams dictate power and torq this will be nearly the same with all bp in oem config withing our 323f ba.

also power plunges after 6500 rpm!


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MrKikker
 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:37 pm 
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cool. you got a stainless steel exhaust manifold or removed cat?


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ph3n1x
 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
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no, havent found anything yet for my bp, removing cat is illigal and you wont pass mot...


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MrKikker
 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
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yeah well i'm willing to take both for granted in exchange for some extra bhp..


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ph3n1x
 Post subject: Re: Couple questions
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A friend of mine is finishing a welding course for stainless steel and aluminium by the end of this month, so i am going to ask the guy if he can whip me a new and shiny header up.
The cat is going to be replaced with a high flow cat and catback when cash allows it.
I am still waiting on my brakedisks and my car is in need of new shocks.

I am also going to toy with a new head, but i will write a complete howto on it as io am working on it. Since it is still a bit too cold, that job is to start in march/april...


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