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mazdaman88
 Post subject: Ecu for klze
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:15 pm 
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Would a kl05 or kl32 ecu be for the klze engine if so which one is best to run the klze engine to it's potential? thanks


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Standalone is the way to go really but I [i]THINK[/i] its the KL05, I could be wrong

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What is meant by stand alone?


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basically you through away your standard ecu and fit an aftermarket one which can do everything standard ones does plus more and is programable

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O ok so where would I get one of them from ?


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well if you have a look in the chit chat section there is a topic i started there which might help

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Megasquirt would be the best bet for a cheap but good one :)

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After reading that topic I get the impression a standalone ecu can give better bhp gains as to a kl05 ecu correct? If so how much more would we be talking?


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Not much, if you decide to boost though you can with a standalone :)

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well I am going to be a guiney pig in January so you will know then... generally a piggy back unit will get 5 - 15hp depending on all sorts and stand alone 10-30hp again depending on other mods

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Hmmm ok however I'm looking to buy my reconditioned klze engine in December and hope to have it fitted. Iv seen an kl05 ecu for sale at a reasonable price so just for then will that run the klze to it's full potential and is there anything else I need to buy ? Thanks for your advice chaps


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I think it should run it at the standard hp rating of the engine but if you want anything extra you need to look at a piggy back ecu or stand alone ecu

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Ye for now I'm happy with 200 odd horses. be good to see how u get on with yours in jan then speak to u again then :D , as for having a klze fitted how do you go about looms ? Do u splice them together or ?


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[quote="mazdaman88"]Hmmm ok however I'm looking to buy my reconditioned klze engine in December and hope to have it fitted. Iv seen an kl05 ecu for sale at a reasonable price so just for then will that run the klze to it's full potential and is there anything else I need to buy ? Thanks for your advice chaps[/quote]

Like I said I'm not 100% sure if it is the KL05 ecu, Best bet would be for someone like matt to come along and help you.

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Ye I find out for deffo cheers tho :)


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Ye for now I'm happy with 200 odd horses. be good to see how u get on with yours in jan then speak to u again then :D , as for having a klze fitted how do you go about looms ? Do u splice them together or ?


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Um, looms have the same plug end connections, so plug n play to your original loom mate (assuming you had a v6 ofcourse). Only gets tricky with the ecu cause i'm pretty sure the kl05 wont plug in to the original loom, so will have 2 b spliced there. or you do what i did n run with the standard ecu until you can afford a standalone, you'll be at about the 180-185hp mark so you should still take out any other 323's, just not by as big a margin. Thats the stage im at now. got a megasquirt just need to save up for installation.

Actually while i'm on the topic (a small thread hyjack) should I install a fuel pressure reg before i put in the ecu n dyno tune?........... Dumb question, actually, i definately should


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[quote="drakh"]Um, looms have the same plug end connections, so plug n play to your original loom mate (assuming you had a v6 ofcourse). Only gets tricky with the ecu cause i'm pretty sure the kl05 wont plug in to the original loom, so will have 2 b spliced there. or you do what i did n run with the standard ecu until you can afford a standalone, you'll be at about the 180-185hp mark so you should still take out any other 323's, just not by as big a margin. Thats the stage im at now. got a megasquirt just need to save up for installation.

Actually while i'm on the topic (a small thread hyjack) should I install a fuel pressure reg before i put in the ecu n dyno tune?........... Dumb question, actually, i definately should[/quote]

bit of a thread hijack again but how have you found the megasquirt ECU. If you couldve got a already built Stand Alone ECU for the same price would you have done it? only reason i ask is trying to get peoples views as a friend is going to be importing ECU's soon

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So let me get this straight either I read it wrong or I always get different answers so... I have a kf engine want to put in a klze engine sooooo what ur saying is it will plug straight in to what's already there but run at a lower bhp ? If so il do that and wait for eogbakers mate to get the standalone jobs over


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i think that you cant use the inlet mani off the kl with the standard wiring, or something - think ringo has the original mani on his at the mo due to an issue with his......

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Hmm this company buying my engine off me so has to go complete wot engine is the kl32 ecu for then ? I'm talking like 20 quid for that so will that work


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Matt is right, there are differences with it all, You will need the ze wiring loom to make it worth doing :)

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[quote="_stuz_"]Matt is right, there are differences with it all, You will need the ze wiring loom to make it worth doing :)[/quote]

I dont disagree, but my klze plugged straight in, bit of a hassle with the vacuum brake hose but thats not electrical. I've had both curved neck and straight neck manifolds on no problems. Although, and i dont know if this is a factor, i went from kfze to klze where as he is going from kfde to klze? Who knows

And to eogbaker, I got my megasquirt off a guy at Astinagt.com $550nzd so like 270 pounds. If you had something that just plugs straight in to standard v6 loom id have been interested, depending on price. but with shipping it usually too much


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Ye I'm going from the original 2l v6 engine that there fitted with. So in theory my inlet Mani won't be gd enough sooooo if I get either a kl05 or kl32 ecu that should sort me out until I get a stand alone and presumably that will also need to be spliced in ? What ecu out of them do I need tho?


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