possible fuel problem maybe
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Help!!! v6 cutting out.. |
Hi i need some help with my 323f 2.0 v6 97000 miles. Ok i have had this car about 8 weeks and it did go very well untill this morning when after about 10 mins of driving to work it decided to cut out when i pulled away from a set of lights. Everytime i put my foot on the gas it goes to cut out almost as if i had driven through a large pond a soaked the dizy cap.. I have looked at leads plugs dizy cap air intake but i am at a dead end please help.. It starts no probs and if you push the gas pedel very slowly it will go all the way up the revs... Many thanks nick. |
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| Author: | GOGOBROOM [ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:03 pm ] |
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dunno mate but i would probably guess that it needs a damn good service ... if that dont cure it then am sure the garage will tell ya whats wrong. Cant say I have had that problem myself. |
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:16 pm ] |
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Thanks it had a full service 1 week before i got it, i have the paper work for it done at mazda... As this problem started so fast i am thinking somthing elec maybe the distributor!! What do you think? thanks |
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| Author: | 323H [ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:26 pm ] |
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i know uv probly already checked but it sounds like a dirty air filter to me |
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| Author: | GOGOBROOM [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:23 am ] |
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Does the engine sound the same as before ? could be that you are not firing on all cylinders - might even be as simple as a HT lead not connecting correctly. Its difficult to say really without seeing the problem in person |
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| Author: | Cyclepath [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:11 am ] |
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Could be a blocked or dirty injectors...try redex or something like that, it might help. |
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| Author: | Phil-Laking [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:55 am ] |
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If that does'nt work change the fuel filter,,,, |
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:33 pm ] |
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Hi thanks for all your comments i put a injector cleaner in last week fuel filter was changed at last service so i beleive. I just find it odd that the car was running so well on thursday and then on fri morning it all goes pair shaped, but i shall bash on and try and find this fault.... thanks |
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| Author: | essex-lad [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:59 pm ] |
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| possible fuel problem maybe
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| Author: | Phil-Laking [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:00 pm ] |
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Did you see them change the fuel filter,, have been told its a little trick they do,,, its quite hard to change it (well not that hard did it myself the other day), have a look at it, if its nice and shiny then thats ok,,, however they might have put it the wrong way round, if they have changed it which I doubt |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:37 pm ] |
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Could be a split air pipe between the the MAF sensor and the Throttle body 
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:57 pm ] |
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I have had a really good look at all pipes and hoses and can't see anything, It is misfiring realy badly if you put your foot down, i have taken the dizzy-cap off looked at it all looks ok even taken the distrib off and stripped it all looks ok there to, i am at a real dead end, it is going down to the local garage on monday so i shall let you all know what the prob is, just hope it aint nothing to ££££ just my luck it will be.... not only that i work for A/Clark so i do get good discont on parts for all cars like for my 323 rear disks and pads to me £80 timing belt £34 its ment to be £50 anyway talk soon thanks to all.............. |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:00 am ] |
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If it's missing badly under load, it'll most likely be HT leads
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:07 am ] |
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Ok it good be that so i have a multi meter how to i check them?? |
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| Author: | TYPE Brad R Wills [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:41 pm ] |
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check the HT leads are all on the right cylinders first.... The back row, left to right are 1, 3 and 5 Front bank are 2,4 and 6. your Dizzy cap will be marked up, but having them all round the wrong way by accident is a reall a**e!! |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:45 pm ] |
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A multi meter probably wont show up any problems, the leads brake down under load. You may be able to see burn marks just above the rubber cap on the spark plug end of the lead. Best to get someone with experience to drive it or steal/borrow a known good set and try them or bite the bullet and buy yourself a set......
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:21 pm ] |
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Ok taken all the leads off and tried them in my 1990 323 1.6 and it seems to run ok, just before you say it no i can't the leads out the 1990 are not long enough to fit into the v6. The leads of the v6 look so so but where the clip onto the plug the are brown and burnt looking.. thanks |
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:00 am ] |
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Testing of the HT leads can't be done with a multimeter because you want to know the state of the insulation as well as resistance 
Hope you find the issue soon. Mark |
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| Author: | Stuart McB [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:50 pm ] |
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A little left field but, have you checked the fuel pressure regulator? One sign of a duff regulator is, too much fuel and it stawls the engine.  not too sure where it is on a V6 but they'er usualy around the injectors and the manifold some where. Fuel pipes in one side out the other.
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| Author: | Marky Mark [ Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:42 pm ] |
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Mine did this - it was the coil. Normally you would have to replace the distributor (£330 + VAT from Mazda) as the coil is built into its base but you can get a coil from www.probedistributors.co.uk for £100 + VAT. I tried the leads too but when I spoke to this guy he said "it's the coil" and he was right. Good luck. |
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:17 pm ] |
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Thanks Marky Mark tell how easy is it to fit the new coil?? I have had a look at the website looks like that will be problem. thanks again nick |
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| Author: | Marky Mark [ Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:42 pm ] |
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Mark T wrote a Guide that shows you how to get the dizzy off. Then you have to remove the cap, rotor arm, ignition trigger cup and then the ignitor pack before you get to the coil, which is in the base of the dizzy. I ended up buying a reconditioning kit (£150 + VAT) which replaces all these bits (except the trigger, which is a metal cap shaped widget) so you basically have a new distributor apart from the metal case, drive shaft & bearings. Also includes an o-ring for the drive, which will need replacing. You'll find some parts have a black sealing compound. I cleaned this off and used silicone high-temp instant gasket (eg Hylomar) on the new parts. I guess it's a few hours work if you take your time and make sure you note where EVERYTHING goes. All the bits that need to be fitted at certain angles for correct ignition timing etc have locating pips or similar, so if you take care you can't really get it wrong. Thinking about it I should have done a guide with photos but time was short etc...... Hope this helps. Might be worth asking the guy who supplies the bits if he has any of this written down. |
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| Author: | Smotter [ Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:45 pm ] |
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Branching off in another direction; did you check for water in the plug recesses ? I learned the hard way the first time I washed the motor - the recesses are about 6" deep, and the plug leads don't fit water tight, so water can collect there quite easily in copious amounts and cause great distress ... PS :[quote="Phil-Laking"]Did you see them change the fuel filter,, have been told its a little trick they do,,, its quite hard to change it (well not that hard did it myself the other day), have a look at it, if its nice and shiny then thats ok,,, however they might have put it the wrong way round, if they have changed it which I doubt[/quote] A little tricky ???? On my 1.8, it's downright bloody awkward ! The cursed thing sits half-way down the firewall behind the intake stuff. There's about 5mm less than a hands'width access all round ... |
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| Author: | GOGOBROOM [ Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:21 pm ] |
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did my fuel filter at the weekend ... took me about an hour, its the clips on the pipes thats the tricky bit... ohh and you havent got much arm room in there, and its good if youcan see round corners :P |
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:34 pm ] |
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Hi to all well today i have ordered a brand new distributor from www.probedistributors.co.uk and it should arrive to tomorow so check in this time tomorow night for an update, thanks guys..... nick |
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| Author: | nickv6 [ Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:27 pm ] |
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Hello people well my new distributor arrived today and is now fitted, and my v6 is back to full power infact i would go as far as saying it's going better than it did before.... many thanks for all of your advice .. thanks agian nick...V6 |
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| Author: | Tiswas [ Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:32 pm ] |
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Nice to hear that you have cured the problem, vrrrroooommmm vrrrroooommmm vrrrroooommmm 
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| Author: | GOGOBROOM [ Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:28 pm ] |
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| glad you back up and running
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| Author: | essex-lad [ Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:53 pm ] |
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well done mate Zoom Zoom Zoom !! 
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| Author: | Stuart McB [ Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:13 pm ] |
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Top one mate.
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