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| Author: | JDM [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | A/C |
hey guys, i got a 1997 gxi with A/C.. when i press the a/c button the green light comes on signaling that the button has been pressed... but theres no freezing air comming out!!  i have to put the air flow to the max to get any air out but even still no real cold air comming out like it should. does this mean its bust? or am i just being proper stupid :twisted:
i hope its the first one 
if it is bust what would be the most likely problem and how much to fix? |
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| Author: | andy1669 [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:10 pm ] |
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im not sure but i think A/C after time needs to be re-gased. but dont take my word on it. |
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| Author: | DuFFMaN [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:12 pm ] |
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Yes it does probably need regassing |
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| Author: | JDM [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:14 pm ] |
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| cheers for the fast reply guys , how do i go about re-gassing? is it expensive?
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| Author: | andy1669 [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:15 pm ] |
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| Author: | DuFFMaN [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:17 pm ] |
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Yellow pages.. That have a specialist section for this i believe.. Dunno how expensive... £80 probably? |
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| Author: | Stuart McB [ Sat May 28, 2005 9:18 pm ] |
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Before finding out that my A/C sytem wasn't working, I got a quote for £60 off a mobile A/C man. That price included a clean out and new gas. Befor getting gas double check the compressor cuts in. Double fans at the front should come on when the buttons pressed not just the green light. 
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| Author: | Toe [ Sat May 28, 2005 10:42 pm ] |
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[color=blue]The most likely reason is lack of gas, the compressor won't start without the correct pressure of gas within system, a kinda safety feature and if compressor won't start, then fans won't come on neither, they're linked, one won't run without the other. Regassing can range from £50 to over a £100 for places like Mercedes Benz and involves checking system for leaks, this is required even if its just servicing, its a legal requirement 'cos of the refridgerant gases involved. When I got my motor the compressor wouldn't run, was told it was low on gas and was refilled, only took around an hour, been ok since, though its not super cool, someone at work has a Honda Accord and when thats' running its painful to put hand over vent, its that cold!![/color] |
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| Author: | Tiswas [ Sat May 28, 2005 10:50 pm ] |
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If your having it re-gased make sure that they use a vac-pump first to clean out the system. |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sun May 29, 2005 3:13 am ] |
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Heard this so many times. I bet you don't actually have A/C. All of us have the A/C button that lights up but not all of us actually have the A/C Unit under the bonnet. Check your vehicle specs at the bottom of the driver door |
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| Author: | sam2mazdas [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Chilly blast, or no chilly blast |
Eeze gee Ronin (adam) is right , make sure you do actually have a chiller fitted to yer f, the easiest way to do this is to check how many cooling fans you have behind the radiator(s) if you have aircon you will have two radiator elements, the one nearest the front of the car is for aircon, the one about 1.5cm behind it is for engine cooling  .
1 cooling fan = no aircon 2 cooling fans = aircon Its foolproof man !!! |
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| Author: | DuFFMaN [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:23 pm ] |
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Get your dealer to fork out for one.. technically the vehicle is not as described... Tell him, you don't wanna give your car back as youve done work to it... Get him 2 pay :twisted: |
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| Author: | Stuart McB [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:03 pm ] |
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Yep under the trades description act, the wife tells me "it is an offence to miss describe an item for sale, under contract law if you're buying a car with A/C it is an implied term of the contract that the car DOES IN FACT HAVE AIR CON," So if you bought the car on that understanding that it has A/C I suggest you tell the dealer to take his pick of which method he is to be taken to court. Don't hold out for A/C being fitted but at least ask for it to be fitted or for moneis back on the price of the vehicle. But remeber there ain't no harm in asking for the fitting of A/C at first. Worst case senario return the car and ask for a full refund. :D:D
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| Author: | JAM [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:42 pm ] |
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Yeah, But who in their right mind wants to Return their F................ 
Legally the dealer doesn't have to do jack Shit, he can refuse to do it, cos its Mazda that made the error, not the dealer........... if anyones thinking of mounting a legal challenge, the challenge lies against Mazda, not the dealer............... Just thought I'd point that out, before anyone goes and angrily accuses their F Dealer of something that aint their fault!!! 
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| Author: | DuFFMaN [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:32 pm ] |
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Just out of curiousity... Has anyone brought an F without Aircon with the button still covered? |
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| Author: | m0053 [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:49 pm ] |
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[quote="DuFFMaN"]Just out of curiousity... Has anyone brought an F without Aircon with the button still covered?[/quote] mine has the button but also has a black sticker over it |
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| Author: | Stuart McB [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:37 pm ] |
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When looking for an 'F' saw at leas tfour, 1.5's with the button covered, and one,1.8 without the black sticky but no air con. It dealers trying the didn't know approach. Sorry it just don't work like that. Any trading standards officer would nail a dealer for selling with A/C if the car didn't have it. It's down to the 'selling agent' to correctley describe his / her product or wears. So the dealers argument of not knowing any different because the button on the dash worked wouldn't stand. As a car dealer he/she should know the basic specs and usage on a vast array of vehicles. When selling a vehilce the dealer should ensure that ALL of the car's extras work. It would be like selling Honda on an import with three, 14inch tyres and one, 15inch tyre and the dealer syaing "as it's an import I didn't think that this was different from the norm" the dealer should of checked that this was the correct spec for the vehicle. All in all because of the job that I do and for the people I work for I'd nail this suckers punk ass and go for my previous suggestions. £20 down the COunty court and go for a CCJ against him. He may not pay out any cash but you'll have satifaction guaranteed.
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| Author: | Smotter [ Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:28 pm ] |
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Regarding the presence or otherwise of the A/C unit - I assume you bought it second hand, Ezee (ha ha) so it would depend on whether or not the dealer advertised the car with A/C or not. Should you establish the car has the hardware, do yourself a favour and DON't go for the cheapest quote. Some places here (in SA) advertise really cheap aircon re-gass, and there's probably simular cowboys there in the UK . All they do is connect a cylinder to your aircon and open the valve 'till the aircon is up to pressure. Rather find a reputable place that will first purge the old system, then regass correctly, adding lubricants/rust inhibitors etc. and lastly pressure test the system. |
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| Author: | theboyross [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:04 pm ] |
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Being new I was gonna post a thread on this topic, as I thought it was rather strange to have a fused and live button but no function for it other than to tease you everytime you look at it.. 
So if the button and wiring is there is the pipework or does that have to be "plumbed in" so to say..? |
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